Big Ten should say 'no' to any games with Notre Dame

So, there was Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly talking at a recent golf outing about how he’d like to see the Fighting Irish’s series with Michigan and Michigan State continue.

(Slow, sarcastic clap.) Sure, it would be nice. Who hasn’t enjoyed the games between the Spartans and Irish, and the Irish and Wolverines? Great stuff over the years.

But Michigan and Michigan State should pull the plug on all games with Notre Dame. You, too, Purdue, which has played the Irish annually since 1946.

What’s the benefit to playing Notre Dame?

Big Ten teams don’t need the money that a game with Notre Dame would provide. Big Ten teams don’t need the exposure that a game with Notre Dame would provide.

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So, why play ND?

It’s tradition.

Well, let me be the first to tell you that “tradition” is the absolute worst reason to do anything in life.

Myriad traditions already have been trampled in the stampede of change that has cascaded through college conferences in recent years. Let’s just throw Big Ten games vs. Notre Dame on the pile with Oklahoma-Nebraska, Texas-Texas A&M, Kansas-Missouri and others.

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Matt Cashore-USA TODAY Sports

Notre Dame always has been and always will be all about Notre Dame. It chooses to stand alone when it comes to football. And when it wants help for its other sports, it only does so on its terms.

(What type of conference would take Notre Dame on Notre Dame’s terms? Could you ever see the SEC, Pac-12 or Big Ten accepting such an arrangement? That’s a story for another day.)

Michigan State and ND–consistent foes since 1948–are slated to have a home-and-home in 2016-17 and tentatively are scheduled to meet in 2026 and ’27, as well as a neutral-site game in 2023—perhaps in Chicago.

After meeting in Indianapolis this fall, the Purdue-Notre Dame series will have gaps. The schools will next meet in 2020 and subsequently will play in 2021, 2024, 2025 and 2026. The schools are working on additional dates beyond 2026.

But the Michigan-Notre Dame series–played almost annually since 1978 and dating to 1887–is dead following this year’s clash in South Bend after the Irish brass informed Michigan last fall that it wanted to terminate the series.

Now, Brian Kelly is talking nice-nice about wanting to keep playing his neighbors to the north.

(Slow, sarcastic clap.)

Forget it.

ND’s affiliation with the ACC requires it to play five of those schools each year. (That’s the “cost” for ND to have a home for its other sports.) And the Irish also have other games they want to play annually, like Navy and USC. So, as you can see, Notre Dame’s dance card fills up quickly.

Good for ND.

Now, the Irish can go fill out their schedule with teams from other leagues. I’m sure it won’t be a problem. Stanford has been an annual foe since 1997. No doubt, any SEC or Big 12 school would do backflips to South Bend for the chance to play the Irish and would buy plenty of ND sweatshirts, too.

But the Big Ten should be done with the Irish. Forever.

“When (athletic director Jack Swarbrick) and I sit down and we start discussing ‘what do you want to do?’ we don’t start or end that without having Michigan or Michigan State part of that conversation, and there’s an SEC school involved in that conversation, as well,” Kelly said at the golf function in Olympia Fields, Ill. “I can assure you that Michigan, Michigan State and an SEC school is involved in those conversations. How that pans out, I’m telling you, it’s a very complicated deal.”

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Andrew Weber-USA TODAY Sports

I’m sure it would be an “easy deal” if schools agreed to do things like Notre Dame wanted. It’s “complicated” when ND feels it may not get what ND wants. Let’s stop the dance and have the Big Ten and Notre Dame move on, OK?

The Big Ten will be playing nine league games beginning in 2016. And the league also wants each school to play one non-conference game vs. a team from a “power” conference each season. There are plenty of options outside of Notre Dame for Big Ten teams to choose from.

I will say that I was a bit surprised when I saw it suggested that Big Ten teams may schedule each other as “non-conference” games as a way to fill out future schedules. What?

Look, if the Big Ten is going to do that, then just move to a 10-game Big Ten schedule. It seems the nine-conference-game format provides headaches, anyways, what with five league home games one season and just four the next.

Just play a 10-game Big Ten schedule, five home games and five away. And that would leave just two non-conference slots each season for schools to try to fill—one less foe to find and one less massive payout to make.

It all makes too much sense–like not playing Notre Dame.

Ever.

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dfvc on 5/16/2014 @ 1:24pm EDT Said:

agree

OHCelt on 5/16/2014 @ 1:24pm EDT Said:

Amen. ND suits ND, and the flap over Gordon Gee’s remarks about dealing with them was right on the mark. They are self-serving arrogance personified. And they aren’t even that good any more.

Michael on 5/16/2014 @ 2:05pm EDT Said:

I don’t always agree with Tom Dienhart but when I do, I wholeheartedly agree with him! To hell with Notre Dame!!

Joe Ehle on 5/16/2014 @ 2:06pm EDT Said:

I second that emotion!

DOB on 5/16/2014 @ 2:26pm EDT Said:

Aren’t good anymore? Check the National Championship Game from two years ago. And before you say how ND got beat badly, remember the many times Ohio St. has been abused. Fact of the matter is that Michigan was going to cancel the series and Notre Dame beat them to it. Both Michigan and ND are arrogant because great schools typically are. If the Big Ten wants to replace ND with a MAC school then by all means do so. ND does not need the Big Ten but ND does provide the Big 10 with 3 nationally televised games a year that usually take place at night. Feel free to forfeit that national exposure.

Kevin Miller on 5/16/2014 @ 2:40pm EDT Said:

Seems to me that Purdue and Michigan St need ND more than ND needs them. It’s Purdue’s one nationally televised game a season, and one of a couple of MSU’s. Props to MSU for scheduling the Ducks, but it’s ignorant to act like the B1G gets nothing out of playing Notre Dame.

Kyle Bailey (@kylebailey4) on 5/16/2014 @ 3:00pm EDT Said:

Respectfully — This is a pretty baseless and blowhard article (and no surprise that this article appears on the B1G’s biggest cheerleader…its network). Your argument is basically the Big Ten shouldn’t play ND because ND is arrogant and “does what it wants.” Your opinion of whether they are arrogant or not really doesn’t matter vis-a-vis who ND schedules. In the market place of big time college football it’s still an undeniable fact that ND holds a significant amount of leverage. Until the day they don’t hold that leverage they WILL be able to schedule the way they want to schedule. Why do they get to do this: Because you write about them. Because they sell out every home game for decades. Because the media loves them when they’re good and hates them when they’re bad. Because they have a great alumni base. Because they are a national school (another reason ND is hesitant to join a conference is because they recruit their students from all over the country and would rather not be pigeonholed to being simply a great midwest school). Because they have tradition and lore.

Sorry but tradition counts in college football. You don’t have to accept it but it’s worth quite a bit in college football.

Thanks for keeping ND in the news though. If you wanted them to go away and be irrelevant for your dear B1G teams, you should stop writing about ND.

Scott on 5/16/2014 @ 3:11pm EDT Said:

The Spartans and Irish should continue playing whenever possible.

OHCelt on 5/16/2014 @ 3:16pm EDT Said:

Sorry, but ND were embarrassing in that National Championship game. You cannot complain about the weak B1G when the meat of ND’s schedule is the service academies. The B1G can replace the three ND games, which are lost on NBC, with similar games against national powerhouses on the two bigger networks, or ESPN. ND has been barely relevant to the national picture for some time now, they are 3-11 in their last 14 bowl games, only 5 of which were major bowls anyway. Their NBC deal notwithstanding, the growth of superconferences that will simply make that worse for them. Sometimes you reap what you sow, and (not to mix too many metaphors) some Irish chickens are coming home to roost.

domer1976 on 5/16/2014 @ 3:21pm EDT Said:

I see the author is a Purdue grad. That explains a lot. If I was an alum of that university I’d have a strong predispositon to dropping ND from the schedule, too. It would greatly improve Purdue’s perenielly-bleak prospects for finishing with a winning record.

JP on 5/16/2014 @ 3:48pm EDT Said:

DOB- See Big Ten Network and the site you came to comment on regarding “national exposure”.

Aaron on 5/16/2014 @ 3:55pm EDT Said:

HAHA the meat of the ND schedule is service academies? What a stupid comment. Typical of big ten fan. Try the meat is Oklahoma, USC, Stanford, Texas, and now FSU. But thats alright keep losing to App St and playing in the mediocre big ten. Learn your facts before you spit stupid replies. I for one would be fine with dropping the big ten. Does nothing for ND. But it was fun taking State out of the national championship picture last year, for a team that hasnt been relevant for years (by the way look up relevant in the dictionary) not to bad.

James on 5/16/2014 @ 4:15pm EDT Said:

Know your place. Your view on the Big Ten’s worth is so far from reality it is just comical.

Rick on 5/16/2014 @ 4:25pm EDT Said:

As a MSU fan and alumni, I completely agree. The group that I attend games with has had this same sentiment for about the past decade, drop ND and never look back. We get nothing out of this game. Replace it with a different team from a different region every year. I love the fact that we are having a home and home with the ducks. I think most MSU you fans are tired of playing ND.

Irish Matt on 5/16/2014 @ 4:41pm EDT Said:

Tom, As a biased Big Ten slappy, I don’t expect you to admit to it, but the Big Ten needs ND more than ND needs the Big Ten, eleven, fourteen. ND plays a national schedule, plays in more fertile recruiting areas, and plays tougher teams than what the Big Ten could offer(besides OSU and MSU). I grew sick of the regional games that did nothing for ND the past twenty years. The best players don’t come from the Midwest anymore, so why play teams in the Midwest? Kudos to Jack Swarbrick for getting ND into the ACC, for keeping ND at the top of the mountain of college athletics, and a big thank you to all the conference commissioners for realizing that ND is still king and allowing them to stay independent while still able to participate in the playoff. What you and your fans don’t understand, or refuse to admit, is that ND was forced into this position long ago by your heroes of the past. They didn’t choose this path, it was forced on them by a bunch of bigots, mainly Fritz Crisler. NBC came to ND and offers them money, not the other way around. What does ND owe you, owe the Big Ten, or owe anyone else? Good riddance to the Big Ten, ND is on its way forward while your conference stays stuck in the past. Go Irish!

DOB on 5/16/2014 @ 4:43pm EDT Said:

lol – Are you seriously calling the BTN a legitimate national network? Keep telling yourself that. 99% of the people in Texas do not know what channel the BTN is on. ND is always on NBC, ABC or ESPN, even if the opponent is bad. ND vs. Purdue was the ABC “Game of the Week” – that is national exposure. Minnesota vs. Wisconsin on Channel 554 is not national exposure.

I grew up in Michigan and would love to see ND continue the series; however, to say that ND does not benefit the Big Ten is extremely shortsighted thinking. Has ND been bad in the past 20 years? Of course. But all major programs have gone through such cycles (remember the Shula years at Bama?). BK has ND back in the national discussion which is a great start.

One more thing, if you think the Big 10 will replace ND with a national program, I have a feeling that you will be greatly disappointed. Michigan and other teams will make more money by having a MAC school replace ND as they would not have to do a home/home.

DK on 5/16/2014 @ 4:46pm EDT Said:

Same story re-published for 100 years now.

I’m sure ND looks forward to getting it’s next invitation to the Big Ten.

Tom Clark on 5/16/2014 @ 5:49pm EDT Said:

I agree. As a Big Ten grad, I respect that the conference has repeatedly refused to cater to Notre Dame’s demands. For those ND blowhards who think they will always have a seat at the table, West Point (aka Army) was once the dominant football team. Deep down, ND knows that if it joins a real football conference, they will quickly become just another team.

The worst mistake the Big Ten ever made was caving into the BCS and giving up its Rose Bowl in exchange for a shot at a national championship. It’s the only bowl game that makes money and it only makes money when a Big Ten team is involved.

Calvin on 5/16/2014 @ 6:28pm EDT Said:

Unfortunately it just means more games with a .500 Big Ten record. The more out of conference games you have the more you get away from the .500 league record. You also improve the quality of Big Ten teams by playing out of conference “power” teams.

Ohio State produced some of its best teams ever when it played Notre Dame and Washington in the same season.

Now I happen to agree with giving Notre Dame the kiss-off. They are demanding, self-centered and care nothing for the Big Ten.

That doesn’t mean we should turn inward, though! Bring on USC, UCLA, Texas, Oklahoma, the SEC sisters, etc. In the end the Big Ten will be a better league with better teams because of it. You can’t be the best until you’ve played the best.

Gary Rayl on 5/16/2014 @ 7:31pm EDT Said:

Wild be great if Indiana, Prudue and ND played each other each year. ND gains 2 wins, IU and Prudue gain higher attendance averages. All benfit.

OHCelt on 5/16/2014 @ 7:48pm EDT Said:

Hard to see how ND is “on its way forward” when they have won just three minor league bowl games in the last 20 years. The truth is that the glitter went off the ND helmets in the mid-90s, when they finally gave in and scheduled that home and home with OSU, and got soundly beaten in both. Playing UoM, MSU, and Purdue as a season opener is a crap shoot anyway, since neither team has any previous form or time to play together. Why not play these in October or November, and then let’s see how the results look? The fact is that gravitating to the ACC does little or nothing for the ND brand, but I am sure they looked at what happened to PSU when they joined the B1G and were supposed to dominate, and wanted no part of that. Being stuck on NBC, while the B1G is getting prime time night game exposure on ABC, CBS, and ESPN, must surely be galling, but what goes around, comes around, and if Chip Kelly is the only one that sees this, the future for ND does not look bright.

Bruce on 5/16/2014 @ 9:48pm EDT Said:

No, I do NOT want to see the Big Ten play Notre Dame again. If ND doesn’t want to join the Big Ten or any conference (I don’t get the Basketball-only thing), let them play the West, South & East teams. They have the money to fly all over the place. I pray for the day NBC cancels their TV contract!

daniel on 5/17/2014 @ 5:40am EDT Said:

I think Notre Lame should discontinue playing BIG teams. I think it would be in their best interests to play 5 ACC games a year and 5 games on the west coast. Then they should play 2 SEC teams. And they should also be allowed to play for the ACC championship. They aren’t really a Midwest team. Jack Swarbick has said multiple times that ND sees itself as an east coast school. The BIG has to play at least 1 P5 school and no FCS. I would rather ssee the BIG play other teams. I can’t stand ND. It’s just my opinion. I don’t know a lot of people that like ND. I live in Indiana and I see more Purdue & Indiana fans.

Andy Wiest on 5/17/2014 @ 9:06am EDT Said:

Who becomes the casualty of the big ten’s new 10 game schedule? Anytime a team or conference moves in a different direction with new scheduling requirements, some team gets bumped off the schedule. Would Michigan be any different than ND if they broke ties with Eastern Michigan to play 10 conference games?

TerryD on 5/17/2014 @ 9:11am EDT Said:

That would be just fine for this ND fan.

I have been advocating a complete split between ND and the Big Ten for years, no games in any sport.

That works.

Chris on 5/17/2014 @ 9:23am EDT Said:

To Hell with Notre Dame! They are taking a PR hit for chickening out with Michigan. Let those dmed chicken losers fail!

epschoet on 5/17/2014 @ 10:18am EDT Said:

ACC does little for ND? Better secondary bowls tie ins, better recruiting grounds, better schedule(FSU, Miami, Clemson) etc.

John mullins on 5/17/2014 @ 12:53pm EDT Said:

The simple fact is that Notre Dame would only enter the BIG if their conditions were met, specifically, leaving football out of the mix. Of course, the BIG wouldn’t agree to that. Football is the only sport with value at Notre Dame. They agreed to disagree. It was a simple business decision on both sides. The ACC accepted Notre Dame’s conditions because they were in a vulnerable position economically. Continue to play. Why not?

Lynn on 5/17/2014 @ 9:43pm EDT Said:

Maybe Notre Dame should be done with the Big Ten. It is obvious they prefer to be closely associated with the ACC and before that they preferred the Big East. Yes, tradition has much to do with why some Big Ten teams will entertain a series, but it is time Notre Dame moves on from the Big Ten. It just sad that Notre Dame happens to reside in South Bend, Indiana and no longer really wants to be part of the mid-west. If you examine the history they have dropped series with Iowa (1968), Indiana (1991), Northwestern (1995), Wisconsin (1964), Illinois (1968), Minnesota (1938), and Ohio State (1996). Notre Dame needs to bow out gracefully as a mid-western team and disassociate with us poor rubes.

TRB on 5/19/2014 @ 1:53pm EDT Said:

Michigan State will not abandon ND, no matter how arrogant ND is or becomes. The writer has ignored the history that explains the reason. Tom, do a little investigation. Life should be more than “what have you done for me lately?” ND was willing to schedule MSU before MSU was a member of the Big Ten. ND validated MSU’s legitimacy as a football school, when Michigan refused to do so. The MSU-ND “tradition” is not an artificial one created by a media publicist–or writer who might announce to his parents that holiday gatherings will no longer be attended, because they no longer provide sufficient benefit to his career. MSU respects the tradition of the game with ND because of what lies behind that tradition.

Ben on 5/19/2014 @ 2:12pm EDT Said:

Apparently Tom read this article and wants to protect his weak conference:

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/2014/05/19/notre-dame-fighting-irish-ready-to-become-powerhouse-again.html

iuhoosier1 on 5/19/2014 @ 4:49pm EDT Said:

NOtre LAME.

Jan Selge on 5/19/2014 @ 5:21pm EDT Said:

to the person who was bragging because Noter Dame sells out all home games…the stadium only holds 40,000 and where else can you get drunk and not know or care who is winning because they are all drunk out of what little mind they have……hahahaha

Luke Anthony on 5/20/2014 @ 8:11pm EDT Said:

whoa

Luke Anthony on 5/20/2014 @ 8:36pm EDT Said:

You look at the non-conference games for MSU, UM, and PU and I’d be willing to bet Notre Dame is the toughest opponent and certainly would have be if on OSU’s as well. These are fun rivalries, I wish they would keep going and as a mid-westerner I would like to see the best for both Irish and the Big-10.
Side notes: I think someone mentioned that the military academies make up the “meat of Notre Dame’s schedule”… I mean c’mon, 1-2 per year, max. Last I checked over the past two years ND has played Oklahoma, standford, the U, arizona st., and next year FSU is there. Notre Dame Stadium holds *80,000.
Someone posted you “you can’t be the best until you play the best” and then listed teams, 2 of which ND has beaten the past two years…..uuummm ok?

Mitch Green on 5/23/2014 @ 12:05am EDT Said:

Says Notre Dame to itself: “Well since we can’t be the best unless we play the best, we’ll just schedule all our games with our self. That way we won’t have to share and we can wind up going to a bowl game and keeping everything.” Sorry, I agree with the author. Putting up with this crap has gotten so old lately. Its time we all moved on.

Lean Blitz (@LeanBlitz) on 5/23/2014 @ 9:09am EDT Said:

I’m a B1G grad. All of you commenters hating on ND, you’re the reason internet sports comment boards and sports talk radio are all jokes. You read hair-pulling articles and pull out the pitchforks. You need ND more than ND needs you. Who are you going to substitute in for ND – Directional State U? The B1G is becoming the gal at the dance getting overlooked by all the suitors tripping over themselves to dance with the SEC, and the B1G is whining about it in the corner, putting everyone else down. “We’re better than them” or “We don’t need them, we have ourselves!”

The B1G needs to get over itself. You’re making a scene and no one wants to dance with you.

Mike on 5/25/2014 @ 1:35am EDT Said:

Notre Dame has accommodated their Big Ten rivals, playing three of its first four games against them. Should any of them wish to schedule games in Oct or Nov – like NW has this year – the Irish would be more than willing to continue some long-standing series. It’s just not such an “easy deal” to schedule those wishes anymore. The Purdue-Notre Dame series is over 100 years old. In the sixty-six years since 1948, Michigan State and ND have played yearly except for one two year span. Those years represent relationships between the two schools in academics as well as athletics – and have risen above the decades of similar vitriol, sarcasm, elitism and black-balling attempts. In today’s era of nine game conference schedules with strength of schedule becoming a factor in the college playoff, teams are ahead of the curve by incorporating more flexibility in their scheduling. The alternative is playing directional state schools or regional teams from lesser leagues. Wouldn’t you want to play a team that could fill your 100,000 seat stadium three times over if you could fill all the ticket requests? Michigan State will fill ND’s place on the schedule this year with Oregon. Michigan is scheduling Oregon State instead next year. I look forward to the MSU-Ore game. But do you think Michigan prefers Oregon State – or are they just more convenient? Perhaps Michigan can follow ND’s lead and schedule Oklahoma, Florida State, Texas, Clemson, USC, Stanford, etc…. While the ACC and SEC will reach agreement on non-conference games with each other, I agree with you that the Big Ten should move to a ten game conference schedule – less headaches in having to play national powerhouses outside of your domains. More convenient and the easy way. By the way, why is it you still call yourself the Big Ten? Oh, yeah, tradition.

michaelcollins8 on 5/25/2014 @ 2:15am EDT Said:

Notre Dame has scheduled its three Big Ten teams in its first four games since 1978. The Irish just cannot accommodate those type of demands with its ACC commitments. Should they wish to play in October or November – like Northwestern will this year – ND would have more of a chance to continue those long-standing series. Purdue has been playing ND for over 100 years. Michigan State has paid ND yearly – except for one two year span – for the last sixty-six years. Those relationships go beyond football or athletics. Those relationships have survived the vitriol, sarcasm, and elitist attitude that have accompanied similar attempts at black-balling Notre Dame. Flexibility in scheduling is becoming more important in this era of nine game conference schedules and strength of schedule factor for the football playoff. As an AD, I would prefer scheduling someone who could fill my 100,000 seat stadium three times over with ticket requests. But Michigan State has filled ND’s place with Oregon, which should be a good game. Next year, Michigan has scheduled Oregon State in place of ND. Michigan should follow ND’s lead and schedule teams like Oklahoma, Florida State, Texas, Clemson, USC, Stanford, etc. The alternatives now are to schedule directional state schools or lesser regional conference teams. Still, some scheduling is just done for convenience. The SEC and ACC will be coming to an agreement on non-conference games against each other. I agree with you that the Big Ten should move to a ten game conference schedule – an “easy deal”, less headaches than playing national powerhouses, and in moving outside your comfort zone. By the way, why still call it the Big Ten? Oh, yeah, tradition.

francis siu on 5/25/2014 @ 9:10pm EDT Said:

Notre Dame plays Navy every year. It is debt of honor for what the Navy did for ND in the lean years at ND before WWII and during WWII.It is written in the contract that only Navy has the right to terminate the match. When Weiss was the coach, he ask the student body cheering the Midshipmen when they exited the tunnel. No schools had that kind of bounding. Playing Navy is not exactly meat. They beat ND three times in row. ND by playing weaker teams is common courtesy for any sports game.

Hokes called ND chickens. Maybe so. He never mentioned the fact Michigan canceled a game first. Then, ND served the letter canceling the next one. Did ND say we don’t need you. Who is a little chicken in this case. So, He wanted to play both way to his benefit. I hope Appalachain will beat M again this fall.

For many years, ND wanted to join the league. Fielding AD and Crisler of Mchigan blacked ball ND, not only in football but also in other sports. Ever year ND wrote to M begging for game match in the 20’s and 30’s. The answer was always no from Fielding. Privately, he stated that we don’t play the GD Catholics.It was absolutely looked pitiful for ND searching opponents. ND was force to play anybody and any where – USC, Texas, Army, Yale, – in 20 days of gruelling trip they beat them all. These are the early history of ND In 20’s 30’s.

In adversity, ND rise.

Every year in the M lock room, the coaches asked the palyers whom you wanted on the schedule.It is invariably the name of ND came up. Schumbackler, Moeller, Car, and others simply dismissed the idea that playing ND is irrelevant. So be it. It was Don Cannon AD who resurrected the idea of playing ND again in 70’s. The reason was M losing attendance. Don Cannon was a big man who reached out for ND. ND never held against M for what M did to ND in the past. They never said I don’t want to play you.

Remember that Lou Houtz won two National Championships while M didn’t rank in top 10 once. M wishes to play anybody like ND. They are bounded to a decaying league – always blaming some else for their failures and misfortunes. Football future is in the South and West. Luckily, that ND and Indy 500 are still in Indiana.

M is never going to be great, because the team is driven by the little people.

Thank God that M had forced ND staying independent. Michigan is very jealous of ND’s past success. Envy lead into hatred and incriminations. They have a deep inferiority complex by saying “I don’t need you ND”.

I have lived in Michigan for some 40 years. Some Michigan fans are so obnoxious in their stadium toward the opponent guests. You seldom see this type behavior at ND. ND don’t tolerate this type of provincial M behavior in their stadium.

Ryan on 5/26/2014 @ 12:55pm EDT Said:

My Question for Tom: This article is absolutely laughable. You never once stated a good, clear reason as to why the B1G should stop scheduling ND other than – you don’t like them. The B1G is suffering in both quality of play and attendance. The additions of Rutgers and Maryland will draw less fans for home games and will certainly contribute to a drop off in talent. ND brings a national spotlight to the B1G that no single team in the conference can rival. The larger part of this conversation is rooted in the history between ND, MSU, Purdue, Navy (non-B1G) and Michigan. If you knew anything about the history of the B1G in relation to ND you would realize that ND will not join the B1G because of your conference’s treatment of ND in the early 20th century. At that time the B1G tried to do just as you’re suggesting – it didn’t work. Purdue and Michigan State Univ. (my alma mater) recognized the B1G was concerned about their best interest, just it would serve neither team any good to exclude the Irish nowadays (seeing as they’ve played for a Natty more recently than any B1G team). This article was written by someone with zero knowledge of either the B1G or Notre Dame and your readers have been robbed of their time.

Ima Skunkbear on 5/27/2014 @ 5:54pm EDT Said:

Notre Dame stadium seats 89,000, not 44,000. Typical skunk bear douche.

Fielding Yost on 5/29/2014 @ 12:08am EDT Said:

Capacity: 80,795
Nonetheless the less we play them the better we will all feel. Even if they could join I don’t feel after all the bad publicity and jerks and yanks they have put us through they should ever be scheduled. I find it funny they went to the big east which was a primarily a basketball conference and got their butts handed to them by Iowa a team which while good didn’t even make a dance. Minnesota won the NIT, 3 teams at the eight, one in final four. Yeah so much for that better recruiting blah blah blah. I wish all B10 schools would cut the ties. Don’t make it easy for them, let them fly half way around the country to find a opponent. Screw them. I am just curious what excuse they will use when teams won’t schedule them. Sure there will always be some Temple, Glassboro state, Slippery Rock that needs a big name opponent. B10 days should be done.

Brendan on 7/29/2014 @ 2:19pm EDT Said:

Lol. He’s a Purdue grad. Makes sense now, why he’s so bitter about the Irish