Ohio State CB Roby ejected for targeting

Ohio State cornerback Bradley Roby is the second Big Ten player, and the second Big Ten player in as many weeks, to be ejected for targeting. Roby was booted after a jarring first-quarter hit on Iowa tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz in Saturday’s 34-24 victory. A week ago, Nebraska cornerback Stanley Jean-Baptiste was tossed for the same rule.

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Here’s the hit, in photos:

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Watch Jean-Baptiste’s hit from last week:


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TBrooks167@gmail.com on 10/19/2013 @ 4:50pm EDT Said:

A horrible call! Guess next year each player should wear flags around their waist and get rid of contact all together. This is FOOTBALL, injuries are going to happen! targeting rules only makes the game worse. The Ed Reeds and other great big hitters wont make it to Sat or Sun to showcase their talents, because they will have been suspended and ejected enough to be abeled a bad or “dirty” player. The hit that Roby delivered was a big hit, but there was nothing wrong with it! He led with his shoulder, NOT his helmet! the only reason there was any contact between their heads was the facemasks bumping together! He led with the shoulder and hit him in his upper torso. I guess diving at his knees and causing a season ending injury would have been the preferred method? Seems to me, a 28 year football fan, that there have been a considerable increase with lower body injuries the last two seasons with the implementation of these new “targeting” rules. So what is being said to athletes? We dont want you to have problems with your brain 30 years from now, so we instead will make rules that will jeopardize your health and safety right now for your benefit 30 years from now? Seems to me that common sense would lead one to realize that the legs are a much more vulnerable area for injury than the head/neck area hits. This defense-less receiver crap is for the birds! Its the QB job not to throw to a receiver in a bad situation, dont lead him across the middle of the field when a huge linebacker is coming at him from the other side of the field! If this is the route you wish to start down, then lets skip all the crap and go straight to what it is this leads to, take defensive players off the field and just have the offense line up alone on the field and run plays, no contact and no hitting. This is a sport for GLADIATORS not pansies. The rules should be made and maintained by players and former players, not pencil necks and classroom warriors. If you havent played football at atleast the college level, you have no business making rules that affect guys that do and will.

Smith5646 on 10/19/2013 @ 5:00pm EDT Said:

I thought the definition of targeting was hitting a defenseless player above the shoulders. Looks to me like Roby’s shoulders are below the receivers. And, it was upheld by review???? How is this targeting?

Bud on 10/19/2013 @ 7:11pm EDT Said:

Shoulder pad to shoulder pad and yet he gets flagged and tossed. Bad call, pure and simple.

Glenn Engstrom on 10/19/2013 @ 7:27pm EDT Said:

He should be arrested…………….

Andris on 10/19/2013 @ 8:15pm EDT Said:

@Smith5646: this is clearly targeting. Roby leads with the crown of his head and hits Fiedorowicz in the helmet. If you listen to the replay you can physically hear the helmets popping. Review shows Roby launching himself, head down, towards Fiedorowicz, and hitting him in the helmet.

akble on 10/19/2013 @ 8:36pm EDT Said:

so Smith you think Roby’s helmet is almost turned around on his head and 6’7″ Fedorowitz head is turned the opposite way in the photo from shoulder pads to shoulder pads? It was a legitimate interpretation of the existing rule. Whether the rule is a good one or not is not the question. Roby had used the same method a few plays earlier hitting Bullock out of bounds and got away with it

Urban Meyer on 10/19/2013 @ 8:51pm EDT Said:

Hit was dirty, just like the rest of my program.

David on 10/19/2013 @ 8:56pm EDT Said:

Bad call, he made a good play!!! Just like the call on Jean-Baptiste last week, this rule gives the refs to much power to disqualify a game changing player.

Hans67 on 10/19/2013 @ 9:17pm EDT Said:

Bill Lemmonier officiating crew that did such a bang-up job in the Michigan State-Nebraska game last year.

JoeW on 10/19/2013 @ 9:20pm EDT Said:

15 yards ok…ejection is too harsh for what should have been clearly seen as shoulder to chest contact by review official. Ejection needs to be the exception, not the rule. Review official was very quick with review so I wonder if all angles were looked at.

Karyn Frost on 10/19/2013 @ 9:53pm EDT Said:

Terrible call by the refs. It is Tackle football, right?

Iowa hawkeys on 10/20/2013 @ 1:05am EDT Said:

i love the fact of how many “missed” holding calls there was on ohio state towards the end of the game when iowa had the chance for the win but osu kept converting 3rd down runs although atleast two of our linebackers were held on all of them runs

Randy Small on 10/20/2013 @ 1:31am EDT Said:

Very good called by the refs. Roby led with his helmet above the defenseless players numbers. It doesn’t matter where his shoulders are if he leads with his helmet that high.

Mike on 10/20/2013 @ 8:08am EDT Said:

And Iowa Hawkeyes shows why he is an Iowa Hawkeye with that completely off topic and horribly written response.

Mike Ruggiero on 10/20/2013 @ 8:24am EDT Said:

The hit was clean…this is college football, not powder puff…you want to go across the middle, expect to get jarred. He leaned into the hit and did not “launch”….Roby is clearly smaller so how can he get that high to warrant a targeting call…clearly the NCAA is making themselves out to be a joke once again.

smith5646 on 10/20/2013 @ 8:56am EDT Said:

The definition of targeting is hitting a defenseless player above the numbers…going for the head. It has nothing to do with leading with the helmet. While I will agree he was defenseless, he did not hit ABOVE the numbers. He hit chest high.

Launching is leaving the feet. Roby’s left foot is on the ground at the time of impact. You can’t launch and still be in contact with the ground.

@akble – Roby’s helmet is straight in line with his shoulders.

@Randy – They are required to have their head up during a hit like that. If he lowers his head, it is called spearing.

@Andris – If you look at the picture, the impact point is clearly meant to be the shoulder pads into Fiedorowicz’s chest. I have also heard the same popping noise on shoulder to shoulder hits where helmet’s never touched. I watched this over and over in slow motion on my TV and the only part of the helmet that Roby hit was the facemask. It was not a helmet to helmet hit.

I will admit that I am an OSU fan but I will also admit that I felt the same way when I saw the Nebraska hit. I didn’t have a dog in that fight and agreed with it so you can’t say I am OSU biased.

Rick on 10/20/2013 @ 9:43am EDT Said:

Roby was changing direction, & turning hard left. Your upper body had better be forward of your lower body, or guess what? You will fall over. The hit was initiated shoulder to shoulder against a larger opponent, who did not immediately get knocked to the ground. The momentum carried upward. …. I am a big proponent of safety in the game. …. This was a valid play to review, however once reviewed, should have been overturned. ….. How ’bout this; Take EVERY player’s helmet away, & play ball. …. Now everyone will be much more careful to keep their head out of the game.

mark on 10/20/2013 @ 10:12am EDT Said:

So now Jack Lambert’s quote has come true more than ever when he said, “Why don’t we just dress the QB’s in skirts”.

By the photo it looks as though Roby is coming in with his shoulder pad to the chest, it’s not his fault or any other players that their head is above their own shoulders.

The referee that made that call was 15 to 20 yards off the play and delayed his call 3-5 seconds after the play was over while the ref that was 5 yards from it didn’t even give it a second thought that it was a clean hit.

Why don’t we just get it over with and attach the flag football belts on every player. I’m certain that 100,000 fans will pay and come to see that.

Mike Ford on 10/20/2013 @ 10:26am EDT Said:

Anyone who says Roby was leading with his helmet and hit the other player’s helmet is telling a straight-faced lie to smear Ohio State. All haters see the same photo everyone else sees and saw the same slow-motion replay. Everyone knows he led with his shoulder and hit the other player’s shoulder. Given that it was reviewed and Roby was still ejected, there was clear bias on the part of the officials and the lead referee from yesterday’s game should be terminated.

Skull Session on 10/20/2013 @ 10:40am EDT Said:

Lead with his helmet? He lead with his shoulder (it’s the first part of his body that makes contact with Fedorowitz). Both player’s helmets are turned away from each other. Also, both player’s heads recoil because of shoulder to shoulder contact, not helmet to helmet contact. Finally, he did not launch (both feet are still on the turf). Is Roby suppose to stand upright and attempt to takle someone who is 6’7″ and outweighs him by 80 lbs? The NCAA & NFL are slowly ruining football. Let’s just have them put on flag belts and give everyone a trophy after the game…

John on 10/20/2013 @ 11:20am EDT Said:

Good call, poor technique and exactly what the rule is trying to discourage. Some of you guys need to set the koolaid down.

If I am a tOSU fan I am glad he was booted, maybe next time he plays it correctly. Roby had a great opportunity to force a fumble on that play if he goes for the ball. Instead it ends up helmet to helmet, bad play.

akble on 10/20/2013 @ 11:49am EDT Said:

smith5646 – keep your phoneline open today – obviously you are so smart and the officials that replayed it were so stupid the B10 will be calling you with a job offer today. Were you as vocal with the officials after the Ia State Buckeye BB game?

Casey on 10/20/2013 @ 11:50am EDT Said:

All I need to see is how much the receiver’s head turns from the crown of the defender’s helmet. You may not agree with the rule but this is clearly targeting.

    akble on 10/20/2013 @ 12:58pm EDT Said:

    The rule states nothing about leaving “both feet” or for that matter leaving the ground at all- simply states :

    • Launching toward an opponent to make contact in the head or neck area.

    • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust with contact at the head or neck area.

    Would say it is pretty clear he gathers himself and before the hit and then thrusts forward and obviously hits the receivers head and helmet ( which is normally above his shoulders) .

    Once again the rule may be a bad one but this is the type of hit that falls under it. You want to see bad use of it look at the Georgia call- not this one.

    delmar1950 on 10/20/2013 @ 4:22pm EDT Said:

    Well Casey if you’re basing your opinion on a player head turning from a result of the a hit such as this one as targeting then you’re not much of a football fan. The picture that they have here clearly shows the defensive player shoulder hitting the Iowa player right on the shoulder pad flip. A hit like that in it self would make the players head turn so you need to come up with something better that, because that’s not targeting.

Buckeyes2324 on 10/20/2013 @ 12:04pm EDT Said:

Well i guess next week instead of hitting the guy in his chest roby can just hit him low in the knees an blow his knee out. Ima all for player saftey but damn cant a player still hit somebody thats legal too much gray area surrounding the targeting rule. Refs are left too much judgement if its clean or not replay officals should be forced to watch every angle reguardless no matter what. An for iowa fans complaing about the play before that um ur running back lowered his helmet to hit roby an hurt himself instead. An i watch plenty of college football in other leagues an i have seen plenty of hits like roby’s hit never even flagged considered a good clean hit Ncaa Is a complete joke just fold an go away

delmar1950 on 10/20/2013 @ 12:14pm EDT Said:

What ever happen to the slogan a picture is worth a thousand words? It’s so sad that people let their love for their team and the dislike of another team cloud their judgement. I’m an Ohio State fan but I’m a football fan first and calls like this is not good for the college football. If anyone can honestly like at this and still make some of the comments that I’ve seen here you are the ones who are bad for college football not Roby not the officials not even the targeting rule. For those of us who have made constructive comments please keep them coming you are all good for the game.GO BUCKS

Randy Small on 10/20/2013 @ 1:46pm EDT Said:

What Roby should have done was lowered his shoulders with his head up and hit him around the waist to make a perfectly clean tackle instead of going high on a guy who is bigger than him. That’s something you learn in junior high and even pee wee league football is to always stay low. I have no problem with Roby or the Ohio State Buckeyes by I agree with the NCAA and NFL breaking down on these types of plays because the last thing a player wants to do is have his season ended early because someone took an intentional shot to hurt them.

Greg1953 on 10/20/2013 @ 3:14pm EDT Said:

If the call was bad? Why did not Coach Meyer come unglued? From watching the player leave the game he seemed pretty cool and calm about what happened??

BUFFALO LION on 10/20/2013 @ 8:03pm EDT Said:

I’m a Penn State fan, and that was an absolutely HORRIBLE call on Roby. He made that play the only way he could, and actually did try to pull up. He had two choices other than what he did. Try to arm tackle (like it seems most defensive players are being taught now), and let a much bigger player flick him off and run for a big gain, or try to hit him low, and risk a FAAAAAR greater injury to either himself or Fiedorwicz. Roby did the absolute right thing. I was so mad after that BS call I actually started to root for Ohio State. I didn’t want to see them lose because some ref threw their best CB out of the game. That kind of crap is a great way for crooked refs to fix games.

    delmar1950 on 10/20/2013 @ 10:32pm EDT Said:

    Well thanks Buffalo Lion and as a Ohio State fan I too thought it was the wrong call. But being that you’re a Penn State fan I want you know that were not going to take it easy on them. So thanks again for your comment and I know that you wouldn’t want it any other way. GO BUCKS

samdus on 10/20/2013 @ 8:19pm EDT Said:

ride on delmer1950….i am an Iowa fan but love Big Ten football period…i love watching all the teams… I just know the basics…bottom line …it is what the refs say no matter what you all come up with…a lot of weird calls this year though…call me paranoid but makes me wonder what goes on behind close doors $$$$$$….maybe Ohio State didn’t pay up this game thinking it was going to be a sweep.

b. Clark on 10/20/2013 @ 10:18pm EDT Said:

The guy had the ball in the middle of the field and the clock was running, what are you supposed to do besides knock him down? How can a ball carrier in a live play be called defenseless in this case?

SRU on 10/21/2013 @ 8:25am EDT Said:

The haters aren’t getting too worked up when the bad call goes againt tOSU, but the rule is clearly too subjective. If the officials can’t get it right after reviewing this play, then the game is rigged so they don’t have to get it right. This leaves the opportunity for crooked officials to influence the game in their and their bookies favor by eliminating an impact player when it is in their crooked interest. They don’t even make a call against the Clowney hit last year that was obviously a lowered head, lunging, crown of helmet to helmet hit. The helmet to helmet with the head down is what caused the MI player’s helmet to fly off. But the “game-fixers” wanted Clowney in the game so – no call. Everyone should play by the same rules, so the biased officials (probably paid by ESPN) can’t influence the game, and the best team (a.k.a tOSU) can win by their performance on the field.

BigRedOne on 10/21/2013 @ 10:05am EDT Said:

Here is what is going to happen when you get the players to go lower on hitting and avoiding the head. Season and career ending leg injuries. Which do you want, you cant have it both ways. I also find it funny that the same ref crew made this call in the Neb/Purdue game and now the Ohio St/Iowa game.

YesSireeBob on 10/21/2013 @ 12:51pm EDT Said:

More than a few comments posted here reveal little, if any, regard for the safety and well-being of these young men. Are the folks who criticize rules such as the anti-targeting rule (at the center of this discussion) willing to foot the medical bills of injured athletes as part of price of admission for such “entertainment”? Please advise.

Randy on 10/21/2013 @ 2:32pm EDT Said:

I was at the game – I knew when I saw the tackle, at full speed, that it was a good hit. Slow motion replay showed that it was nothing but a good hit. Roby lead with his shoulder against a man who was 5″ taller and 50# heavier! This was a bullsh*t call!!!

Tom Parry on 10/21/2013 @ 3:34pm EDT Said:

I looked up rule. There are 4 main criteria for targeting,
1. Launching while leaving his feet (Roby did not leave his feet)
2. A crouch followed by upward motion even if feet on ground (yes) AND targeting head or neck area (clearly no)
3. Leading with helmet, forearm, fist hand or elbow to attack neck or head area (no)
4. Lowering the head before attacking…. (no)

He met none of those 4 criteria. Bad call that should have been overturned. I understand how the officials missed it at full speed, but no excuse for the replay booth. My brother is a college offical and they were told “when in doubt throw them out” by the NCAA so that’s the real issue.

    delmar1950 on 10/21/2013 @ 7:00pm EDT Said:

    Thinks Tom Parry for enlighten the people who have no ideal what they are talking about. And like you I didn’t understand how the replay booth miss this call, they unlike the officials are now told by the NCAA to air on the side of safety. And as for the individual who doesn’t has the nerve represent his or herself WAH-WAH-WAH.

Kirk Herbstreet on 10/21/2013 @ 5:36pm EDT Said:

WAH-WAH_WAH finally a call against OSU and you guys cry like the little babies you are. Quite clearly the audio confirms that helmet against helmet, he hit him in the chin guard so hard his mouthpiece fell out. Its a shame that OSU relies on the ref’s assisting them every game, you don’t know how to act when it’s a call against you.

Scooter on 10/23/2013 @ 4:47pm EDT Said:

Pretty much anyone who believes this was a legitimate call by the refs, where you can clearly see Roby led with his shoulders, probably voted for Obama’s second term too. You can put the FACTS right in front of their faces, but they still refuse to see it.

    Delmar Jones on 10/23/2013 @ 7:25pm EDT Said:

    Scooter I did not think that the refs.got right oh yea I did vote for President Obama as if that had anything to do with it. And back to your comment It’s bad enough that the refs got it wrong the fact that the guys in the replay booth also got it wrong and that my friend is the real problem.GO BUCKS

akble on 10/23/2013 @ 8:13pm EDT Said:

Scooter – Pretty much anybody that sees that as not being a legitimate call and interpretation under perhaps a stupid rule and continues the Ohio State is being targeted by the refs and the rest of the country BS probably voted for Ron Paul and his conspirancy based paranoid campaign. You can put FACTS in front of their faces, but they still refuse to see it.